Monthly Meeting Minutes 11/04/2013

by Tom on November 11, 2013

 

13 Freethinker’s attended a meeting of the Lancaster Freethought Society held on Monday, 11/04/2013 from 6 to 8 PM at Isaac’s Restaurant, Manheim Pike, Lancaster, PA.

The meeting began with the current LFS Board Member Secretary welcoming the new and attendees. The subject of this months discussion was concerned with the current pending vote on Pennsylvania House Bill 1728, which had cleared committee by a vote of 14-9. The bill is meant to introduce into our public school buildings the national motto “In God We Trust”. The bill was introduced into the PA Education Committee by Rick Saccone as the primary sponser. Rep. Rick Saccone was also a sponsor of the “Year of the Bible” for 2013 (PA HB 922) so he is clearly suspect of promoting religion.

We discussed the the following issues of this proposed legislation:

  1. The promotion of a religious rather than a historical message.

  2. The waste of valuable educational funds.

  3. The impression of state sponsored religious message.

  4. The divisiveness of the motto.

  5. What you can say to your representative.

  6. The coverage of this issue in the local news.

If you chose to appeal to your local House of Representative’s, now is the time. You may want to use this as a guide:

PA House Bill 1728 is unnecessary and divisive. There is no need to impose burdens on public schools to symbolically affirm our national motto when it is under no threat in the first place. This bill claims: “To increase student understanding of and familiarity with American historical documents, historically important excerpts from or copies of the documents should be prominently displayed in public school buildings.” However, it only mentions the current national motto. A reasonable person would see that this motto is a proclamation of faith. Currently up to 20% the United States population identify themselves as non-religious. Should we not err on the side of caution and not open our public schools to the on going debate concerning the separation of church and state? This could open our schools to other “historical” messages that maybe you would not agree with? Please think about how others would feel that may not especially agree with placing this motto within our public schools.

The meeting ended at about 8 PM with some attendees remaining to discuss relevant issues.

Upcoming Events:

12/02/13 -LFS Monthly Meeting at Isaac’s @ 6 PM

All of the above are advertised at Meetup.com. Please RSVP for these events.

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PA House Bill 1728 “In God We Trust”?

by Tom on November 1, 2013

House Bill 1728  passed the committee and will be scheduled for a vote.  The purpose of the bill introduced is to place “In God We Trust” in all public school buildings.  The bill is supposedly meant to support an historical message when, in fact, it is a religious message.  The PA House Representative Saccone has again decided to push the religious agenda upon the secular and the sectarian citizens of Pennsylvania by continually breaching the “wall of separation“.  Not all citizens of PA wish to have religious messages displayed in public schools.  An unofficial poll (view results) at Pennlive.com cites an 84% disapproval of Mr. Saccone’s idea or should I say personal ideal!

Article 6 states :“To increase student understanding of and familiarity with American historical documents, historically important excerpts from or copies of the documents should be prominently displayed in public school buildings.”

How about if Mr.Saccone places the Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, that was ratified unanimously in 1797, into all public schools?

Article 11 states:  As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, — as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, — and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

This is an historic document and would teach the students what the founders REALLY thought!  This is an historically important “excerpt” that would fit into HB 1726.   This would also give an “alternate view” to the fallacy that this nation was founded as a “Christian” nation.  Would Mr. Saccone add this as an amendment?

Two national constitutional church/state watchdog groups have commented on this bill:

  1. The Freedom from Religion Foundation has placed this “action alert” on their web site.
  2. Americans United for the Separation of Church and State has criticized Mr. Saccone’s bill to place this “motto” in public schools.

This bill will be the main topic of our Meeting on 11/04/13 at Isaac’s in the Granite Run Shopping Center at 6:00 PM EST.

We hope to see you there!

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Ask an Atheist on Penn Square 10/19/2013

October 19, 2013

An “Ask an Atheist” informational event was held at Penn Square in the City of Lancaster. LFS members were on the square from 9 AM until 2 PM. It was a very nice day and we had many conversations with both religious and non-religious passers by. We hold these events to provide a human face […]

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Meeting Minutes – 10/7/2013

October 9, 2013

Approximately 18 persons attended a meeting of the Lancaster Freethought Society held on Monday, 10/7/2013 from 6 to 8 PM at Isaac’s Restaurant, Manheim Pike, Lancaster, PA. The meeting began with the LFS President, Scott Rhoads, welcoming the new attendees and asking them to introduce themselves, followed by current members’ introductions to facilitate the group […]

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Interfaith Panel “Why Marriage?”

September 20, 2013

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July 2, 2013

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June 10, 2013

Approximately 10 persons attended a meeeting of the Lancaster Freethought Society held Monday, 6/3 at Isaac’s Restaurant, Manheim Pike, Lancaster, PA. Pres. Scott Rhoades initiated an informal discussion regarding feminism withing the Freethought movement, and how it’s effects may be described as a, “fracturing”, or, “layering”. Rebecca Watson (skeptic, feminist) and Skepchicks are associated with […]

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LFS Meeting Minutes – 5/6/2013

May 8, 2013

LFS Meeting Minutes – 5/6/2013 Approximately 14 people attended a meeting of Lancaster Freethought Society help Monday, 5/6/2013, 6pm at Isaac’s Restaurant, Manheim Pike, Lancaster, PA. Scott Rhoades began by discussing the upcoming Atheist/Humanist conference in Philadelphia. Cost will be $113, (to include the Friday PM party). The admission fee covers dinner and lunch.  Embassy […]

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Hearing the Voice

April 8, 2013

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Meeting Minutes -04/1/2013

April 8, 2013

Approximately 16 persons attended a meeting of Lancaster Freethought Society at Isaac’s Restaurant on Manheim Pike, Lancaster, PA. Attendee Al Eckert presented readings from The Portable Atheist, (a compilation of thoughts from famous atheist thinkers through time). Attendee Scott Bitzer presented a discussion of an article, “Hearing the Voice of God”, (see attachments).  Attendees discussed […]

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